I am pluto again. I try very hard not to be Pluto and be controlling. She impacts me too, but in a gentle way. She says I inspire her as well.
So far there is just great admiration and empathy between the two of us. I always have Pluto in some form in my relationships. Usually to my moon and mars. This is definitely a word I would use to describe 12H relationships.
I find I go through mini crises every time I get triggered by him but it leads to healing and peeling yet another layer off. He triggers me so deeply, my deep seated fears, my attachment issues. Like no one ever has before. He will often shut down and then re-emerge once recovered, leading by to a new level of understanding.
Very forgiving. Composite Venus sextile Jupiter exact too! I love that aspect. In terms of Saturn and Uranus we have: His Saturn conjunct my moon 5 deg and mars very widely at 9 deg in synastry. Interesting that we have that too! As well as the composite Saturn conjunct asc! We have composite 12H sun square Uranus boooo. Vain Leo Rising that's why haha That's really powerful synastry, so many conjunctions and Venus in powerful Taurus conjunct your Asc?
I've never had the square, so I suppose that's maybe why I couldnt understand why people didn't like this aspect. Stonemoon, is your daughter a water sign? That's lovely that you have a deep bond getting better with time. So far I'm seeing the pattern that the trines and conjunctions are the way to go but squares and opps seem to a run for the hills situation.
EmGem, those are some serious Saturn aspects. I think the Jupiter will definitely balance the equilibrium, I have a lot of Saturn aspects with two of my best friends but because of all the Jupiter action in our synastry and a couple in our composite I think that's what helps keep the Saturn at bay! Not to say it doesn't peep out at times, but that's life and the jupiter definitely helps this! I have Venus Square Saturn with someone, first I was sad because I wanted to be the Saturn, I feel I have a good on handle Saturn due to many aspects in my natal chart, now I feel that it may be a good thing because I also have Moon Opp Uranus I absolutely hate this aspect with this person in synastry and I'm the Moon Not much I can do though, everyone my age's Saturn squares my luminares and inner planet stellium, my Venus squares everyone my ages Neptune and Uranus and anyone a little bit older opposes my moon and squares my Venus!
Posts: From: From a galaxy, far, far away I do love her. Also, just remembered that I had Venus square Saturn with my ex of 10 years! I was Saturn again. I never was cold with him. Always been affectionate really. You write clearly and with depth insight, imho…. Thanks …. Boldly written! Yes, the dark underbelly of the US collective unconscious is being revealed during the Pluto return. Centuries of shadow work to be done….
Thank you, Lynn. This brings perspective to this time and to some of the more horrific events and actors on the stage right now. And I like your suggestion for how to get through it, now, to harness our knee jerk reactions in favor of the more reasoned responses. Thanks Lynn. Everything feels so topsy turvy. Perhaps the planets are striving to take us through the rocky road of emotional and spiritual maturity individually, and with fellow human beings.
Natally, I have Pluto in the 12th House and I am always looking for the deeper meaning of everything. Along with that, I am learning not to get swallowed up in darkness and despair; not easy! I am selective about the internet as well. If we spend all of our time on the internet, we are ignoring real life and the people around us. Also, drowning in suspicion makes me feel powerless. Hi Gina, you are smart to be selective on the internet. There's something consuming about it.
We must have a significant Pluto interaspect or some 8th house business going on. There's more to it than what they think! I think supersonic spy jets are romantic. If anyone ever saw an SR and said "awww", there is something wrong with them. If they said, "ooooh I feel like my growth is limited bc Pluto puts a damper on everything.
No love, inner anxiety, fears etc Yes, I was born on both planets somehow. It makes someone really philosophical and deep in their thinking. But I know what you mean because it makes someone know too much about how people think and their psyche that you cannot say anything because of the cold hard truth that people don't want to hear.
It can also make you feel life is boring because you know too much of the mind. Posts: From: Registered: Mar posted October 24, PM I agree about the hard to get work part because I'm not all bubbly and as outgoing as other people. My pluto makes me come off kinda awkward. Only Astrologers themselves can decide how they accept the answer and then ultimately, how they read it back to you.
The interpretation and presentation of the answer matters almost as much as the answer itself. The problem is, Astrologers, like normal people, are quite prone to being biased when politics are involved.
Simple example here. If Capricorn rules the large structures and Aquarius supposedly rules community, one can interpret that as power from the banks to the people. Now most Astrologers, I would wager to say, do lean very much to the left politically.
As a result, a lot of Astrologers might say power to the people to mean that we are going to stop those greedy Republicans and Trump Supporters from taking up all the wealth and privilege from everyone.
Now big bad racism and big bad homophobia are going to go away as we take back America from Trump supporters. Quite a few Astrologers cannot see anyone other than their own political side as being the good guys. So obviously, a Pluto Return would mean what you want it to mean which to an Astrologer can be Republicans being brought to justice as the Democrats come in to save the day.
Let me present another viewpoint to you, if you have made it this far. I can also say the oppressors are big tech giants that censor opposing viewpoints, powerful government agencies that have a ton of say in how your life is impacted, and the party in power that wants to push a Trillion dollar infrastructure bill.
Now someone with that viewpoint can simply say that the power to the people and fall of large government institutions will mean that perhaps it is the big government agencies, big tech, and party in power being brought to justice. Yet, if I did that, some would call me a Right Wing nut job, a Trump supporter, and whatever name people call those that disagree with them these days. Most of all, a situation like I just described would scare the living shit out of your average Astrologer who is likely left leaning when it comes to politics.
For starters, lose your biases and stop letting your emotions get in the way. Unfortunately, we as a society have a real tough time doing that. We get emotionally unstable and angry whenever any possibility of our worst political nightmare comes about. If you are emotionally invested, moreso than you would like to be, then you will fall flat on your face trying to predict this.
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